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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  When it is the only possibility that remains.

  How do you know it's a possibility? We can't solve one mystery with another mystery Old Navy. And we can't explain one unknown by postulating the existence of another unknown.

  This would be like saying, "Well I couldn't find my key's this morning therefore bigfoot took them - it's the only remaining possibility."

  Absent some evidence that bigfoot exists and is the sort of creature that takes keys - then it is not valid to say it's a possibility. In order to say something's 'possible' we need either precedent or something of parallel comparison.

  The same is true with universe creating gods. Until such a time as it is demonstrated that gods do in fact exist and they create universes - then it's not valid to assert that it's "possible".

  I'll also point out your attempt to equate creation to evolution is quite silly. While there is no evidence for gods there is massive amounts of evidence for evolution - which is demonstrable with measurable accuracy.
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  As they proceed in their quest for answers they will, should they persist, hit that wall where it is finally acknowledged that Creation can be the only possible explanation.

  How do you know creation is a possible explanation?
  
  
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  (in regards to thought) Creation offers a plausible solution to the mystery in that it encompasses each and every characteristic in the design of life.
  -Old Navy

  When asked how creation explains thought:

  It is a mystery which we have yet to comprehend.
  -Old Navy

  Face palm

  
  
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  Each species does seem to be "hardwired" to perform certain necessary tasks. Creation offers a plausible solution to the mystery in that it encompasses each and every characteristic in the design of life.

  -Old Navy

  I'm not sure I quite follow. How does creationism explain consciousness?
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  You don't think darwinism can/should explain the origin of thought?

  No. Of course not. That is very much in the realm of the cognitive sciences. Not in the umbrella of genetic mutations or selections process.

  Evolution says nothing more about "thought" than it does any other aspect of our physiology - that is to say that it is "useful". Having legs is useful. Feet allows us to get around while foraging for food or running from predators or finding mates - etc. Likewise, the ability to process information is "useful". Creatures that can understand and make sense of their environments have a distinct survival advantage. Other than that - why should evolution explain the "origins" of thought (whatever the hell that means). Evolution may explain "why" we have thought. But it's absurd to think that it should explain what thought is.
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  Sorry you got jumped on there HH and accused of being a Creationist. It seems a lot of people are very testy about evolution on this site.

  That being said, I don't understand why you think evolution should explain the origin of thought. I mean atomic theory doesn't explain the origin of protons or electrons. But that doesn't mean the theory is incomplete.
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  you can't equate evolution to something like the standard model bc there are so many things about evolution we still don't know because it happened a billion years ago.

  Well evolution certainly happened in the past. But it's still going on to this very day. And will continue going on in the future.

  Scientific theories explain how things work. To give you an example, we can use the theory of gravity to explain the orbital mechanics of our solar system. But me simply saying, "well we don't know what the solar system looked 4 billion years ago - therefore the theory of gravity is incomplete" - is not a valid premise.

  Because scientific theories are not bodies of knowledge. Rather, they are a tool we use to get knowledge. They are a way of thinking. Scientific theories are a way of explaining and making predictions about the phenomenon we observe in our universe.

  Or, to put it more concisely - they describe how things happen. And in the case of evolution - it describes the process of speciation through genetic mutation and selection. It describes how species change over time. Not every event along the way.
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  We can no more "prove" the theory of evolution than we can "prove" the theory of gravity. Because scientific theories can never be proven - they can only ever be useful. That is to say, the validity of a scientific theory is in its exploratory and predictive abilities. Not it's "proofs".

  However, specific inferences from a theory can be factual (demonstrable with measurable accuracy). For example, it is a fact that objects with mass attract to each other. It's also a fact that we share a common ancestor with all other species on this planet.
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  Name A Problem That Nationalism Has Solved

  by Fred Franztone in

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  are there any?.

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  Things Nationalism has solved:

  • Tribalism: Instead of small bands of blood related people fighting against other small bands of blood related people in battles that are waged purely for genetic reasons - nationalism instead allows individuals unrelated by blood or marriage to live and work together.
  • Nomadic Life Style: Instead of having to wander and completely live off the land nationalism allows unrelated people to build civilizations (agriculture, governments, academic institutes, i-phones, etc).
  • Ceremony and Identity: Nationalism promotes a sense of community by common practices and beliefs while also providing individuals a clear understanding of their place within their communities and within their broader worlds.

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  Nationalism - in and of its self - isn't necessarily a bad thing. And quite often it's pros far outweigh it's cons. However, it can be dangerous when used as an "us vs. them" pretext (which, unfortunately, does happen).
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  Christian "NO GO" zones in US

  by Coded Logic in

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  i can't believe this is taking place in our country!

  all across america there are areas where people are trying to enforce christian law!

  outsiders are strictly forbidden from entering and they have private security and guards to keep people out.

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  You do understand this is satire right?